Scoop!: Big O and PLO8: Winning High Low Concepts for the Hold'em Mind: Volume 1
D**R
Good general advice on starting requirements and solid cautious play
You're going to save yourself the price of the book if you follow the advice so I defo recommend.Basic, intermediate but solid advice. I hope we see a book updated to cover the aggressive 6 max tournie style formats that we see with constant 3 and 4 bets.Solid read with a couple of gems in there for any aspiring PLO8 player
D**N
Quit dumping money!
This book covers the basics of Big O. I play Big O two or three times a week, and I see the basics violated repeatedly. You need to know the basics of a game to be successful. Get the book.
B**.
etwas zu teuer
Auch wenn ich für 36 € mehr erwartet hätte, ist der Inhalt des Buches insgesamt OK aber hätte besser strukturiert sein können.Für blutige O8 Anfänger ist das Buch von Dan Deppen besser ("PLO8 Revealed"). (und günstiger)
N**E
Want to improve your game? Get it.
Well written and informative. Sure hope the people I play against don't read this. Want to improve your game? Get it.
R**R
Very good job with the content and organization
Very good job with the content and organization!The book is well-organized with many helpful examples. I think Doug does a good job grabbing people in the Foreword. If they don't want to continue reading after that, they probably aren't good candidates for this publication.The first one-third of the book was a review for me, since I attended Greg's class. It was still worthwhile because it establishes the key concepts that anyone playing these games -- seriously or even casually -- should understand and adopt. They are then emphasized throughout the remember of the book.The last two-thirds of the book discusses and illustrates some very helpful additions to the class material; such as, the sections on bet sizing and high/low variance. Both of these concepts appear in almost every section after they are introduced, and the examples explain very well how and when to productively vary your bet-sizing and effectively use high and low variance. This is excellent and should make a tremendous difference between the win rates of someone using these ideas and those who do not.Also, the comments on betting/not betting throughout based on your cards, opponent tendencies, and stack sizes are quite useful. Situations in which we should NOT be betting (even with the likelihood of having the best hand of the moment) will save the reader many chips in the long run.Throughout the book, fully explained examples are used to illustrate the points being made. The examples at the end of the book provide the reader with material that (IMO) should be periodically reviewed in order to stay sharp.If you decide to issue a new volume, there are a couple of additions you might consider. As Doug mentions, he had never played any form of PLO, and (IMO) it's important for the reader to understand that pot limit is a (much) bigger game than no limit. That is not intuitively obvious, since how can anything be bigger than no-limit, a game in which you can put all your chips into the pot whenever it's your turn to bet! So if you ever update the book, I think it should be stated that pot limit is a bigger game, the reason why it is true (players bet pot and repot much more often than they shove all-in in NL), and show how the pot builds very quickly, even in a 1-2 pot limit game. Since some readers will know that, I suggest it be shown in an appendix rather than the body of the text (so not to bore those who already know it). An early footnote reference to the appendix should (again IMO) satisfy everyone. If you ever update this book (or write a second one), you might consider adding a section on tournaments to discuss situations in which the strategy might differ from that used in cash games. Bet sizing will vary in a tourney, since players have large stacks early and much less playability late. When short-stacked in a NLHE tournament the player reaches a shove or fold mode. In a comparable PLO8 or BigO situation the player will, of course, pot premium hands when short; but which other hand types should be added to this group and are there some that are not recommended (e.g., when short-stacked in a NLHE tournament, high cards become much more important than low or medium suited connectors)? Also, before reaching that stage, at what point (in terms of stack size) should the player modify her strategy. Are there certain hand types that should be avoided at that point, and are there others that become more important?
D**R
Good information, terrible editing
The major concepts definitely describe what was intended, notably how to approach the game from a no limit Hold-em background. I would recommend to anyone making the transition.I was very disappointed however in the sheer amount of grammatical errors. Nearly every page has at least one. It’s extremely distracting and there is no excuse for it.
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